Apples to Apples. As soon as YouTube realized I was trying to expose climate fraud, they started shadow-banning my YouTube site. 3 million acres. Seriously though, how do the people doing this sleep at night? This information is gathered from the Incident … As I stated, the earlier data shows primarily intentional burns, while the latter half shows are burned by wildfires. There are plenty of shady statistics the government produces and should be called out on, but I don’t believe this is one of them. The relevant table p537 is here: The numbers in protected areas are small, comparable to modern. And now, after decades of that data being provided to the press and the public, and nearly a decade of NIFC making it publicly available on their website, they want us to believe that it is now unreliable data? They had fire data prominently displayed on their bulletin boards. Towns destroyed. According to the Internet Wayback Machine, that caveat first appeared on the NIFC data page somewhere between January 14 and March 7 of 2018. This was a destruction of old ideas, old cultures, old habits, and old customs. . It’s possible that the NIFC was unaware of the differing definitions until the USFS published their work that I cited above. I believe these old records are accurate, though you could quibble about definitions but that won’t significantly change the area burned. I mostly avoid videos too. Have never seen skies as red as that since then, When Yellowstone burned (1988??? […]. An active sun therefore results in fewer cosmic rays entering the lower atmosphere hence lower average cloud cover which implies that more sun radiation reaches the earth’s surface, hence a warmer earth. An overlay mapping areas affected by currently burning fires throughout the U.S. and Canada. For example, in my home state of Washington, the National Park Service reported to NIFC four lightning caused fires in 2020. From today’s Los Angeles Times: “Sources of these figures are not known, or cannot be confirmed, and were not derived from the current situation reporting process”. Sun activity has driven every warming and cooling period during the past 800,000 years according to Don Easterbrook (geologist). However, the early USFS wildfire activity summaries do include millions of hectares of intentional burning on ‘unprotected’ lands, which, until approximately the mid-20th century was viewed by the USFS as akin to wildfire, as something that should be prevented and ultimately eradicated (Pyne 1982).”[2]. : But is 40MM acres plausible? The sun has been active until recently which supposedly brought on our current warming. How hard is it to look at the numbers behind “primarily”? See the annotations that I have added. Nationally, 171 new fires were reported. The early data is all fires, whether deliberately set (prescribed) or not More recently the National Interagency Fire Center explicitly separates the wildfire data from the prescribed fire data. Here is what the University of Idaho had to say: “During the August of 1910, a massive wildfire destroyed three million acres of land in Washington, Idaho, and Montana. What NIFC is doing is essentially labeling every firefighter, every fire captain, every forester, and every smoke jumper who has fought wildfires for decades as being untrustworthy in their assessment and measurement of this critical, yet very simple fire data. It would certainly include “illegal controlled burns,” and certainly means the older data includes more than simply wildfires. They certainly played a role, as did Congress, but the upshot is that fuel management and access road building on fed land stopped. You should put it up on You Tube as well. Apparently the NIFC said it was data until a couple of days ago, when they said it wasn’t data anymore. USG agencies lying about and removing historical data? 7 - Surface Winds and Temperatures. Bruce doesn’t like Trump, but I think he liked most of Trump’s policies. We were trained to carefully measure the size of the fires and included this in the report we signed. Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related and similar cases or data that may contradict that position. Sort of like climate scientists who start recording temperatures during the Little Ice Age. Anybody knows their grandfather wasn’t reliable with numbers. Thanks for your concern. I’m curious. 2020 Bighorn Fire Story Map. Large Fire Map - Displays active large fire incidents within Oregon and Washington. I’m sure a lot of good info is available on ice from military and commercial flights and from shipping and exploration trips over a century, and of course the space programs since the 60s. On the contrary, the blogger is exactly right. Cancel Culture is rife in science and culturally. NO. OK, let’s have some history. If you really doubt the amount of acres burned read about the fires in 1910. [1] What’s more, most of the areas burned in these unprotected lands were from woods-burning. These reports get rolled up into district then forest then national reports. Thanks for pointing this out. However, after making that entire dataset public for decades, now, in a blatant act of cherry picking, NIFC “disappeared” a portion of it, and only show data from 1983. It seems they received some blowback from the idea that their data, when plotted, clearly showed wildfires to be far worse in the past, completely blowing the global-warming-climate-change-wildfire connection out of the water. This information is provided through Situation Reports, which have been in use for several decades. Did you miss the part about Mr. Heller’s site? Maybe he’s too much of a lightning rod for some skeptics, but that seems contrary to recent articles here that skeptics need to take off the kid gloves and pick up their game. National Interagency Fire … ...Why would they do this you ask? Invented data? Such reports follow about a year after the incident is over. Reminds me of China’s war against the “Four Olds”, led by the brainwashed student Red Guard. Large Fire Information Summary - Detailed description including resources assigned, current conditions, etc. Either way, be more sceptical. It’s been an open secret, ever since Dr. Michael Mann used “Mike’s Nature Trick” to “hide the decline” by covering up some inconvenient tree ring data in the hockey stick climate graph, that climate alarmists will go to almost any length to only show the public the “crisis side” of climate data. Not only is that a lie of omission, it is ridiculous. How many “wildfires” are incendiary fires ? The new story told by the sanitized data is in alignment with the irrational screeching of climate alarmists that “wildfires are driven by climate change”. Google “Post-Glaciation Sea Level Rise” or “12,000 year graph of sea level” if the graph does not appear in place of this comment. When the sun is inactive the lower atmosphere receives more cosmic rays which leads to more cloud cover. This site has been created to share authoritative content developed by partners of the National Interagency Fire Center. If you follow Tony Heller you know all this (and more). They also say that deaths due to wildfires continue to fall. The data is there for those who want to go look for it. By 1940’s the feds had completely turned 180 degrees and began official prescribed burning again and these fires were no longer counted in official wildfire numbers. 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For posterity, the entire dataset from NIFC (including pre-1983) is available here in an Excel (.xlsx) file: UPDATE: Here is an analysis paper from 2015 using the same data that is on the U.S. Forest Service website: However, recently some Oslo researchers have demonstrated experimentally that CO2 levels increasing from .04% to 100% lead to no observable temperature increase. ← Click to Display Map Legend or Download PNG of Map. 1: NW Situation: Send keyboard focus to media. https://flatheadbeacon.com/2021/05/12/kalispells-temperature-stays-steady-with-drier-summers/. It is a normal task for the researchers to edit the available data as needed which is hard if it has been disappeared. My short video catches Joe red-handed in this data fraud … https://newtube.app/user/RAOB/KX3Jgsm.   https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/13/scientists-are-frantically-copying-u-s-climate-data-fearing-it-might-vanish-under-trump/. Information included in the IMSR comes from a variety of sources. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! “The data prior to 1983 is no good, trust us”. That is the area of Nebraska. China’s Tiangong space station: what it is, what it’s for, and how to see it. It’s simple, and as Svensmark puts it – cloud cover dictates climate. They wouldn’t want to be out of step with their bosses. Fire management under this larger umbrella is designed to achieve not only suppression goals, but to accomplish a broad spectrum of natural resource objectives, and do so in an efficient, cost-effective manner. “I believe that discrediting fire data before 1983 is an insult to the dedicated men and women of the USFS.”. They say only this: Figures prior to 1983 may be revised as NICC verifies historical data. Is the U.S. Thanks for the careful review. Mr W.: It has a familiar ring to it…… old data incomplete, “not up to today’s standards”; after applying scientific adjustments, OMG it’s worse than we thought, exactly as we predicted. I know you don’t go to his site or you would not expose yourself to such a debunking. John Casey also talks about sun influence in “Dark Winter”. Or you could put on a pair of boots and walk into any forest in the West, SE, or Midwest and look at the burned out stumps for yourself. The tragedy of Paradise CA was started by an electrical distribution fault and exacerbated by lack of escape routes. I did look up the Big Burn Fires. Please try to do better if you are gonna gaslight. I just looked up the definition of “Incendiary Fire” : A fire intentionally ignited under circumstances where the person knows the fire should not be ignited. https://www.fs.fed.us/research/sustain/criteria-indicators/indicators/indicator-316.php The important take is that all past data are accessible. Climate alarmists have been dishonestly trying to make a connection between climate change and fires for decades, simply to induce unwarranted fear and gain political power, by cherrypicking the start dates for their trends, ignoring the role of increased human ignitions, ignoring the spread of highly flammable invasive grasses, not addressing fuel build up from fire suppression, or the fact that maximum temperatures were higher in the 1930s where most western USA wildfires have started . Why do we believe the contrary? 319 240 313 340 298 404 319 370 303 389 381 370, 2021 Rewriting history to support the narrative is what tyrants have been doing for millennia. Yet this “data” says 50 million acres a year were burned during the early 1930’s. The NIFC has an organizational incentive to cook the records in their jurisdiction.. In other words, it sure seems like the NIFC is saying “we showed up one day and the data was here already. And the same the next, and the year after and so on. His book “The Solar Magnetic Cause of Climate Changes and Origin of the Ice Ages” is available at Amazon. Here is some more information on the subject. Following the massive wildfires of 1910 in the Northern Rocky Mountains, fire protection improved and eventually reduced destructive wildfires by more than 90 percent: from 20–50 million acres per year to 2–5 million acres (Frederick and Sedjo 1991, Powell and others 1994) (Table 3, Figure 6). Who is going to write the book: The Great Human-caused Climate Change Fraud”? I did a google search and images: The National Interagency Coordination Center at NIFC compiles annual wildland fire statistics for federal and state agencies. Prior to 1983, the federal wildland fire agencies did not track official wildfire data using current reporting processes. During this warming period sea level has increased more than 400 feet. , in the first four months of this year there were 24 such blazes a day. I never said that the older data was wrong. Fire information is updated as it is received. Did they have to delete it, couldn’t they apply adjustments to make the old forest fires shrink? But my favorite example is NPS in Utah; in 2020 three lightning fires burned zero acres. There’s no intentional hiding of data. https://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs_journals/2020/rmrs_2020_short_k001.pdf, [2] Short Karen C. (2015) Sources and implications of bias and uncertainty in a century of US wildfire activity data. ...Clearly, wildfires were far worse in the past, and clearly, now the data tells an entirely different story when showing only data post-1983. In the areas I have worked some of the historic fires are merely a circle or ellipse of the size reported in an old ledger and roughly centered where the fire was thought to have happened. Why would they do this you ask? (Miriam O’Brien aka slandering “Sou” from Hotwhopper, that means you.). Short Karen C. (2015) Sources and implications of bias and uncertainty in a century of US wildfire activity data. Now the rate of increase is a minuscule 1 to 3 mm per year. There’s an Objectively Measured Earth Surface Temperature, U.S. But absolutely not a reason to remove it. So they are comparing the same thing in the older data as the newer data. By disappearing all data prior to 1983, which just happens to be the lowest point in the dataset, now all of the sudden we get a positive slope of worsening wildfire aligning with increased global temperature, which is perfect for claiming “climate change is making wildfire worse”. 8 - EGP - National Situation. )- I could smell the smoke and see red skies here in MA, Dont forget, the spotted owl logging restrictions kicked in at about the same time, no more logging roads (firebreaks), no more forest planning and pruning…, and no more thousands of good logging and sawmill jobs- I believe it was later shown that the spotted owls don’t really depend on old growth forests- the same kind of crazies are now saying here in New England that we should stop all forestry so the forests will have only one function- to sequester carbon- the hell with future generations that might like to live in wood homes with wood furniture- let them eat cake and build cement homes, https://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/topic/140371-seriously/, ‘He who controls the past controls the future.’. So they decided not to.   Unfortunately the major news media has now become an activist for these entities;. From the same paper, in reference to figure 6: Between 1930 and 1950,in excess of 10 million acres were burned by wildfires annually. I think the point of the article is that eliminating data with essentially no fact or science-based rationale is pure manipulation. They are usually close to or in town, reported immediately, and responded to within minutes. “Four legs good, two legs bad.” This is just a case of bloggers not doing their homework.”. Svensmark’s theory is that cosmic rays entering the lower atmosphere contribute to cloud cover. Plotting the entire NIFC dataset (before it was partially disappeared) gives us some hints as to why this has been done, and how wildfire and weather patterns have been inextricably linked for decades. That doesn’t seem to be the case. Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec From here, the early part of the dataset is not showing the same thing as the more recent part. See current wildfires and wildfire perimeters on the Fire, Weather & … “This sort of unscrupulous behaviour will be their undoing.”. I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Bet not. However, after making that entire dataset public for decades, now, in a blatant act of cherry picking, NIFC “disappeared” a portion of it, and only show data from 1983. And so saying “sources of the figures are not known” is highly suspect. But what is even more outrageous is that NIFC isn’t at all transparent as to the reason for the change. The alarmists’ response about that missing hot spot offers little more than speculation as to where it may have gone. In virtually every news story about a wildfire, the number of acres burned it THE NUMBER the press uses in the story, without it, there is no scale of the severity of the fire. Why should the current crop of communists currently in power be any different? Heartland climate summit preview, The Real Reason Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos and Google Want You to Eat Lab-Grown ‘Meat’ – ‘Have a big financial interest in getting you to switch to a diet of 100% synthetic beef’, Watch: Morano on Rebel TV talks banning meat, eating insects & Al Gore’s quest to be world first fake meat billionaire, Why is Biden energy sec. unless you know where it is, because this page: “skeptics need to take off the kid gloves and pick up their game”, exactly! The high number of fires in the 1st half of 1900’s is an artifact of bad government policy. They faithfully kept all records with a pencil, but to say it wasn’t reliable is an insult. 2: NWCC … Mr. Phillips: First you quote ATTP, i could have stopped there but didn’t. Yes, very good at this. Increasing Strength and Frequency of Hurricanes? You have to erase history so that people won’t the truth about the past. This really is good news. USDA Forest Service Fire Data In the years around 1930, it has 50 million acres a year being burnt. By denouncing it as racist, sexist, or whatever other -ist you can make up, the brainwashed minions will gladly destroy it. International Journal of Wildland Fire 24, 883-891. The fact remains that “wildfire” means one thing in the early years of this graph and something something else in the later years. I worked for several years on a national forest with a very active fire program and performed burned area resonse analyses for several very large fires. Boise, Idaho — The National Interagency Fire Center (NIFC) in Boise, Idaho has requested additional fire personnel and equipment from Canada and the U.S. Military to assist with wildfire suppression efforts in California and Oregon, along with five crews totaling 100 firefighters and four agency representatives from Guadalajara, Mexico. That’s not science, that’s not statistics, that’s not even sensible, but that is what is happening. Increased CO2 causes increased temperatures, which in the west is also causing longer fire seasons and increased VPD, both of which contribute to the increase in acreage burned over recent decades. I posted my take on this a month or so ago. https://www.predictiveservices.nifc.gov/intelligence/2020_statssumm/fires_acres20.pdf Comparing older fire acres with recent acres should be done in context. Some indications of the arrival of cooling are the temperatures since 2016, (see Dr. Roy Spencer’s graph), also February 2021 was the coolest in about four decades. I’ll take data from people on the fire scene over government bureaucratic doublespeak every day of the week and twice on Sundays. It looks like he was just trying to help Gerald out. I can only guess why you don’t care about the accuracy of reporting data. By this logic then all pre-satellite polar ice data is bad as well! The National Interagency Fire Center (NIFC) has been the keeper of U.S. wildfire data for decades, tracking both the number of wildfires and acreage burned all the way back to 1926. Now answer the question, why don’t they fix the data instead of just throwing it out? Read http://landscapesandcycles.net/minimizing-california-s-wildfires.html, from 63 sites and a 300 year period, obviously cherry picked pseudo science by deniers….according to the Climate Liars Club of the Americas, the CLCA. The popular belief is that increasing CO2 causes global warming which not only warms the oceans, but also causes glacier melt. One day, quickly and suddenly, these statues were causing “mental anguish” to people, even though a few days early it caused no such problems for the same people. https://andthentheresphysics.wordpress.com/2015/10/30/the-mysterious-wildfire-chart/ For posterity, the entire dataset from NIFC (including pre-1983) is available here in an Excel (.xlsx) file: UPDATE: Here is an analysis paper from 2015 using the same data that is on the U.S. Forest Service website:https://www.fs.fed.us/research/sustain/docs/national-reports/2003/data/documents/Indicator%2015/Indicator%2015.pdf. I can clearly remember at least two summers that you could smell the smoke and the evenings where red from horizon to horizon from the fires “out west.” Don’t remember the years they happened, but was well before the peak shown in the 70’s above as I was in the Navy in HI then. His own source or lied to you. ) ; Return to content Send keyboard to... 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